BRAC net totals both Military and Civilian jobs by State.
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So who are the big winners as a result of Sub base NL and PNS closing (Not Realigned)? Georgia has one of the biggest numbers in the plus column with 7,423 of which 3,367 go to the Submarine Base Kings Bay.
The other State where the Sub Base NL and PNS jobs are going is likely to be Virginia with gain of 2,036 to Naval Shipyard Norfolk and 2,807 to Naval Base Norfolk , but Virginia shows a net loss. I found a single line item that throws the numbers off for Virginia (Leased Space -VA Close/Realign -22,925). Thats a lot of "leased space" in VA seeing how all the other states combined have "leased space" totaling -3094 positions. If you take the -22,925 out of the equation Virginia gains 21,351 jobs. I guess the military leases a lot of administrative office space outside of DC. But if that were so why is it that VA has -22,925 lost jobs and MD only -175 attributed to "leased space"?
Let's look at the Brac Commission members and how the States they hail from did.
- Anthony J. Principi, former secretary of veterans affairs, from CA, chairman. ( -2,018 not bad for a big State)
- Former Rep. James H. Bilbray of NV. ( 1,059 in the plus side)
- Former Assistant Defense Secretary Philip Coyle of CA. ( -2,018 can't show any bias there's two from CA)
- Retired Adm. Harold W. Gehman Jr. of VA. ( - 1,574 or is that +21,351 I'm not sure...)
- Retired Air Force Brig. Gen. Sue Ellen Turner of TX. ( 6,150 and the boss will probably say OK)
- Former Rep. James V. Hansen of UT. ( -446 didn't hurt that much)
- Retired Army Gen. James T. Hill of FL. ( 2,727 another one on the plus side)
- Samuel Skinner of IL, former chief of staff for President George H.W. Bush. ( -2,698 mostly Naval Station Great Lakes)
- Retired Air Force Gen. Lloyd Warren Newton of CT. ( -8,586 whatever the Adm. says is OK)
Some would say the New London Sub Base and Naval Shipyard Portsmouth closures are a good thing such as linked here or here and others a bad thing as linked here or here. But there's something to be said for Yankee toughness and the people in the Northeast who support these installations aren't going to go away.
Then again Norfolk is such a much nicer place that Groton and Kings Bay is a great place to be in August.
By the way, did I say I'm from Rhode Island about half way between where the Navy once had all types of large installations and that Submarine Base in CT they're going to close. I don't really have a dog in this fight just an interested party that lives nearby.
3 comments:
Bubblehead.us, thanks for stopping by. Groton, Kings Bay and Norfolk all have their pros and cons. I did spent time in all three places including Charleston SC when Boomers made patrols out of there. Kings Bay wasn’t much to speak of back in 1981 when I started making patrols out of there, a pier, AS33 Simon Lake and a very long road to the main gate, that was about it. By the time I left in late 1983 Kings Bay was starting to look like a first rate installation. Also spent some school time in Bangor WA and felt that was a great Sub Base. Groton may not be the best overall Sub Base any longer but like you say it is the first home port for the Submarine community.
Regarding the "Leased Space" closures in VA. Most of the jobs are moving to military installations in VA or MD. So even though there will be 20k+ people effected by the Leased Space, they will still (mostly) be stationed in VA. So technically, VA won't gain much,..
Anonymous, I was looking at the "Leased Space" closures figures in VA with doubt because of all the shifting of other non-leased space positions to VA, princably the PNS and NL Sub Base closures to Norfolk and Newport News. Without knowing the details it almost seemed as though the figure was plugged in to push VA into the negative side. Additionally if as you say the leased space is essentially a wash by moving positions to existing military bases in VA then I would have thought that there would have been some net gain for the state. MD did gain a considerably so that could account for some of the leased space realignment to military installations. Just trying to think this through and thanks for the comment.
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